Lesson 5 - Hoeveel kost dat?


Intro

This lesson deals with shops, buying, selling, prices and money. There will be some attention for diminutives and for sentence structures in Dutch.



You're already familiar wit zegt u het maar - the most currently used phrase not only in restaurants and pubs, bur - even more - in shops. Telling what you want to buy is just as easy as ordering: you say what you want and let it be followed by alstublieft ('please') or you first say Mag ik (means 'Can I have') plus the item you want.

The rest of the conversation in a shop mostly contains just standard phrases like Anders nog iets? ('anything else?'), Dat was het ('that's all') and Hoeveel is het? ('How much is it?').

Here's a standard kind of conversation:

Text 5.1 - Een kilo tomaten
  • Zegt u het maar
  • Mag ik een kilo tomaten?
  • Mag het ietsje meer zijn?
  • Ja, hoor.
  • Kijkt u eens
  • Anders nog iets?
  • Nee, dat was het.
  • Hoeveel is het?
  • fl 4,10
  • Alstublieft
  • Heeft u er een dubbeltje bij?
  • Nee, sorry. Ik heb helemaal geen kleingeld.
  • The phrase Mag het ietsje meer zijn? means 'May it be a little bit more?' (strange enough it's never asked if it can be a bit less). In fact iets already means 'a bit' (also: 'something' like in anders nog iets which means 'anything else') - the -je suffix makes it even smaller.

    This -je suffix can also be -tje, -etje or -pje (often after an m) and is called 'diminutive', or in Dutch verkleining. It's used quite a lot in Dutch, either to make things smaller or to make thing look more innocent. A 'little book', for example, is een boekje, a 'small tabel' is een tafeltje and a little flower een bloempje. Another example: a business like appointment is een afspraak, but a date is een afspraakje - so here the -je is used to make it look "more innocent" (even if it's the big date you've been trying to get for years...).

    Diminutives may also occur in certain situations or expressions where they do not seem to have a function. In a shop, a kilo might become een kilootje, but it's still the same 1000 gram; you might be addressed as meneertje or mevrouwtje while you might not be very small or innocent; a cup of coffee will mostly be een kopje koffie, no matter how big it is. In those cases the diminutives are just to be considered part of the expression or perhaps to express some kind of sympathy.

    The word dubbeltje, as used above (Heeft u er een dubbeltje bij? - 'Do you have 10 cents with it?') even doesn't have a non-diminutive form.

    The diminutives are also used a lot by foreigners, because a diminutive is always a het-word




    This brings us to Dutch coins and notes. Because it will still be a few years before they are replaced by euro-coins, here's an overview:

    Text 5.2 - Geld
  • De stuiver - 5 cent (1)
  • Het dubbeltje - 10 cent (2)
  • Het kwartje - 25 cent (3)
  • De gulden - fl 1,- (4)
  • De rijksdaalder - fl 2,50 (5)
  • Het vijfje - fl 5,- (6)
  • Het tientje - fl 10,- (7)
  • Het briefje van 25 - fl 25,- (8)
  • Het briefje van 50 - fl 50,- (9)
  • Het briefje van 100 - fl 100,- (10)
  • Het briefje van 250 - fl 250,- (11)
  • Het briefje van 1000 - fl 1000,- (-)
  • Additional remarks:

    1. The guilder sign is either f or fl, which means florijn - an extinct coin.
    2. Between guilders and cents, there's a comma, not a dot: dots are used for thousands, comma's for the seperation of decimals.
    3. The word briefje means literally 'note', so it can also refer to a memo.
    4. In spoken Dutch, gulden and cent are used only as singulars, unless one speaks of coins. So fl 100,15 is honderd gulden en vijftien cent.
    5. A Dutchman mostly leaves cent away, though: honderd gulden vijftien.




    The phrases you've learned by now, have two kinds of sentence structures:

    1. subject - verb - rest
      This is a basic sentence structure.
      It's used in simple statements.
      Example:
      Ik heb helemaal geen kleingeld
      subject verb rest
    2. verb - subject - rest
      This is an inverted sentence structure
      It's used when: - the sentence is a direct question or request, - if something comes before the subject, and it's not one word, seperated by a comma (like oh, ah, ja, nee, meneer, mevrouw, etcetera).
      Examples:
      Mag ik een kilo tomaten?
      verb subject rest

      's Morgens drink ik koffie
      "something else" verb subject rest

      For English speakers this structure is not that hard as long as it's a question: in English you do the same thing, although the verb you start the quetion with is quite often 'to do'. In Dutch you don't: instead of 'do you want coffee', you simply ask 'Want you coffee'.

      The inversion if something comes before the subject is much harder to get used to. It's important though, to get it right when you're still at the first level, because later on, it just gets harder.

      Quite often, the thing that comes before the subject is a statement of time (like 's morgens in the above sentence) or place.





    Another thing in Dutch sentence structure that's hard to get used to: if there's two verbs, the second one is usually placed at the end. You might already have noticed this in Mag het ietsje meer zijn?: the first verb, Mag ('May/Can'), is at the beginning (inverted structure) and the second one, zijn ('be'), is at the end.

    Here's two more examples:
    Wilt u misschien iets drinken?
    Want you perhaps something to drink?
    verb #1 subject rest ... ... verb #2

    Ik wil een kilo appels kopen
    I want a kilo apples to buy
    subject verb #1 rest ... ... verb #2




    The above mentioned kilo is well known as being 1000 grams. Because some other words concerning weights might cause some confusion, here's is listing:

    Text 5.3 - Gewicht
  • een kilo
  • = 1000 gram = 2 pond
  • een pond
  • = 500 gram = 5 ons
  • een ons
  • = 100 gram = 1/10 kilo
  • anderhalf pond
  • = 750 gram 3/4 kilo




    Vocabulary
    anderhalf one and a half
    anders else; different
    de appel the apple
    bij with, at
    de brief the letter
    het briefje the note
    de cent the cent
    het dubbeltje ten cents coin
    er there; it
    de/het gram the gram
    de gulden the guilder
    helemaal totaly
    hoeveel how much
    de/het kilo the kilo
    het kleingeld the change
    kopen to buy
    meer more
    nog still; yet
    de/het ons 100 gram
    de/het pond 500 gram
    de rijksdaalder fl 2,50 coin
    de stuiver 5 cents coin
    het tientje 10 guilder note
    van of; from
    het vijfje 5 guilder note




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